09/23/05 - NNHS Newsletter -
Easier Said Than Done


Dear Friends and Schoolmates,   

   Today's Newsletter all but overwhelmed me, and is therefore no doubt full of errors.  I have a plethora of material
still to post from Joe Madagan ('57 - of FL), Tom Norris (Hampton HS - '73 of VA) and even a Famous Marine
or two.  But I began to feel my brain slide over into its "overload" mode, so I thought it wise to save it until tomorrow
or Monday.  Because of this "short-circuiting", many of the memories blow have not been added to the places for
which they were destined.  I will try to attend to it as promptly as possible.  My apologies to all.


The 40-Year Reunion of the Class of 1965

will be held on Friday and Saturday, October 21 and 22, 2005
at the Point Plaza,
950 J. Clyde Morris Boulevard,
Newport News,
and is open to all NNHS Alumni.








From Chandler Nelms (Hampton HS - '63) of MD for Tom Norris (Hampton HS - '73) of VA - 09/22/05:

Tom, thanks for the memories (ref. 3.2 beer). However, I could have sworn that my class drank it all up,
not leaving any for you guys. Do they still make, I wonder. I sure hope not. As I remember, it was pretty
horrible stuff, somewhat akin to PBR’s.

Chandler Nelms

   GIGGLES - thanks, Chandler - you naughty babies!

From Bill Black ('66) of GA - 09/22/05 - "West Point Lights":

I just read Bill Hobbs' ('66 - of Northern VA) veiled reference to "The West Point Lights".. I'm eagerly
awaiting whatever he has to say. 
There was another 'location' I knew of, probably at the end of Beechmont Road ( If that's it.. I sure haven't
been there in a
l-o-n-g time ).  Whatever the street is, it's past Ferguson High, on the left.. There was a
shopping center and a twin screen movie theatre.  A ways down the road, was a turn top the left onto a dirt
road, leading up a hill, and  if you stayed real quiet
... and Bruce Barry played a Johnny Mathis tune
WTAR ("...Seven-Nine-Oh Radio, the Voice of Tidewater. One of America's Great Radio Stations.."  you
might see a series of lights flickering through the trees to the right... Sometimes white.. sometimes red...
Little did I know until I went there during daylight hours that the flickering lights were headlights and taillights
of the other cars that continued on the paved road as it curved below the hill.
But, maybe I wasn't paying attention.
Oh, and by the way.. Does anybody know what became of Faye Smith, Class of 67?  No particular reason..
just asking.. ya' know.  And is the home team still on fire?  Do they still win all their games?  And by the way...
Gordon Lightfoot

   Ummmm, thanks, Bill!

   Wait a minute!  Are you saying that in addition to the Scenic Overlook, and Peterson's Yacht Basin and
Huntington Park
and Merry Point that there was another popular, ahem, uh, late-night drive-in attraction?!?

   Let's ask Dave (Spriggs - '64 - of VA).  He's a super-genius.  Oh, Da-vid!

From Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA - 09/22/05:

Wellllll, this one is a bit confusing. The only Beechmont I could find is off of Denbigh
Boulevard, which a way further up Warwick Boulevard than is Shoe Lane, where Ferguson
HS and CNC were located. Moreover, Merrie Point was off of Hiden Boulevard, which is just a
little north of Shoe Lane.

Also, I am not so familiar with a shopping center with the twin screens.

Also. Merrie Point overlooked the James River and was not on a dirt road; I don't think there
would have been mysterious lights around there.

So, this one will remain a mystery, unless he provides more landmark clues.

   (Grrrrr.)  Okay, Sweetie-Pies.  You heard the captain; we need more clues.  Perhaps we'll have a new page!

   Thank you, David!

   We now rejoin our story.

   I do not know the update on Faye Smith.  Actually, I did not really know her personally, but I do remember (and
have verified) that she was a pretty little girl!  Who among you knows the answer to this question for Bill?

   But your Gordon Lightfoot reference eluded me altogether (not that that's all that difficult to accomplish...).

   Thanks again, Bill!

From Dave Arnold ('65) of VA for Joe Madagan ('57) of FL - 09/22/05:

The section of Gloucester County Joe Madagan ('57) of FL refers to is actually Guinea, and the local waterman
are referred to as Gunieamen.  Guinea is a suburb of Bena.  The name of the area is supposed to have derived
from the revolutionary war when residents of the area would retrieve unexploded cannon balls from the siege
at Yorktown and sell them back for a British one guinea coin.  They have a very distinctive speech pattern that has
been studied, along with Tangier Island in the middle of the Chesapeake Bay, by several linguists.  The consensus
is their speech patterns remain very close to old English from the days of Virginia settlement.
Many of the folks in Guinea are still watermen and interact with York County and Poquoson watermen up and down
the bay.  When I was a York County Deputy we often came in contact with them and it takes a bit of work
to understand the accent.  They still tend to stick to themselves and settle their own arguments.  A hardy group
of people who still work the Chesapeake Bay.

   Oh, how fascinating!  We have here in North Carolina such a place - Harker's Island - for the same reason. 
Being cut off from the mainland, the original Elizabethan accent was still preserved.

   Thanks so much, Dave!

From Chandler Nelms (Hampton HS - '63) of MD - 09/22/05:

Carol, since Tom (Norris - Hampton HS - '73 - of VA) provided one of our old Hampton High
cheers in Autumn Leaves, not to be out done, here is my offering. There is a tune to it, but
obviously I can’t show it. All of us oldster’s will remember it though. By the way, if you choose
not to print it, I’ll certainly understand, but I’m sure you’ll get a kick out of it and maybe you can
send it to Tom for me.

Possibly, Newport News had its own rendition of this time-honored classic.

Hail, Hail to Old Hampton High
You bring the whisky, I’ll bring the rye.
Send the Sophomores out for gin
and don’t let a sober Senior in.

Oh Lordy, we never stagger, we never fall.
We sober up on grain alcohol.
When we fight we fight like hell
For the glory of Hampton High!

Chandler Nelms

   Yes, of course, we sang the same song; we only changed one word - we made it "Old Newport High"! And thanks
for those two final lines; I've been trying to remember them for years!  There's another one I remember that we sang
about opposing schools - yours, for instance - giggles!  I can't seem to recall all the words, so I've have to "LA-LA-
LA" it  . It was a bit naughtier....

Far la-la-la-la-la-la-la,
In a field of rye,
Stands an old deserted outhouse
Known as Hampton High.
All the la-la-la-la-la-la,
Ashes on the floors,
All the boys are football heroes,
All the girls are (pregnant pause.....) cheerleaders.

That’s funny. We, of course, would NEVER have had bad thoughts about Newport News.

Chandler Nelms

   No, no, never!  I am sure!

   Thanks for the fun, Chandler!  Say, are you coming to the Great Typhoon Reunion in October?!?

From Tom Norris (Hampton HS - '73) - of VA - 09/22/05:

Hi Carol ...

Janice Pratt McGrew (HHS-'67) shared a story with me today. The mother of one of her church
friends went to NNHS in the early '60s and had a boyfriend who worked for a painting contractor
who just happened to be doing a paint job at HHS in November. Well .... according to legend there
were two turtles in a Biology classroom who were sporting freshly painted blue and gold shells!
Retaliation (or cause) of the theft of Red's pig in '60???

When does the statue of limitations expire for high school pranks?????

Working on our reunion plans ....

  Thanks, Babe!  See you then!

From Karen Weinstein Witte ('60) of FL - 09/22/05 - "Old Stomping Grounds":

Hi Carol,
I've been trying to get my class ('60) to remember some "old stomping grounds." We remembered
the 5 and 10 cent store in Stuart Gardens but didn't remember that it was called Bernard's
Sammy's was on Chestnut Avenue between 22nd and 23rd. I lived on Hampton Avenue near Oak
(right across the street from the Flaxes) and I remember going to Sammy's on my bike for ice
cream or sodas and "charging it."  When my Dad went by Sammy's on Sunday morning for the
paper, he would pay off my charges!
For those of us who went to Walter Reed, there was a soda shop, Vann's (?) on the corner
of Wickham and 25th.  I think hot dogs were 15 cents and hamburgers were 25 cents. We would
then go to High's Ice Cream Store and get two ice cream cones (5 cents each) which we would
stick together!
There was also a penny candy shop on 25th behind the Walter Reed all-cement playground. 
Does anyone remember the name of the candy shop? Does anyone remember penny candy?

   Thanks, Karen!  The reason no one remembered the name of that Stuart Garden's variety store is that we all
called it, "Minnie's" for the proprietor, Minnie Frierman.  The store was named (if I recall correctly) for her oldest
son, Bernard.  How I loved to go to that store!  It might as well have been the state fair!

   AHA!  Chestnut Avenue - not Wickham!  Thanks so much!  Now I was able to create a slot for it!



http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/sammys.html - brand new page

   I've no idea why I hadn't redone the page for Walter Reed School two years ago when we updated the others,
but it was a ridiculous jumble, so I remade it this morning:


http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/walter-reed-school-B.html - at last completely redesigned, and sporting a new theme
song supplied by our Music Man himself, Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA.  Thanks so much, Dave!

   I had completely forgotten the High's Ice Cream Store (incredible!) in that location, and Vann's and the penny
candy shop are even vaguer memories.  Thanks so much, Karen!  We'll "rebuild" that area yet!

From Mr. Donald Harvey of VA - 09/22/05 - A Thank You from a Senile Teacher":

Dear Carol,

Thank you and the class of 1964 for inviting me to the class reunion. I enjoyed seeing
students I taught, and yes, "taught with" later on. (You see we all get a little older each
year.) I also enjoyed talking to the other former teachers in attendance.

I would like to especially thank the arrangement committee and planning committee
for the dvd of the banquet and following program. I was going through some dvd's and
ran across the class reunion one that was sent to me. I could not remember if I sent a
"thank you". (senile) Well, whether I have or have not, THANK ALL OF YOU AGAIN.

It has been a long time, but I still have fond memories of NNHS and always will.

Thank you, Carol, for the news. I read it religiously.

Bless you all.

Don Harvey

   Oh, my!
That was entirely the responsibility of Dave Spriggs ('64 - of VA) and Tom Flax ('64 - of VA)
and their marvelous reunion Committee!  It was my pleasure to merely spread the word! But we were all
delighted that you were able to come and share that wonderful evening with all the rest of us! Thank you
so much!

   Your brought a lump to my throat, a tear to my eye, and a simultaneous laugh over your senility remarks!   
I should be so "senile"!  In fact, when I really do become senile, no one will know, as there'll be no change!

   A case in point - I checked your page because I could not remember which picture I had selected from the
reunion photos as your "Now" image.  I found there was a good reason I couldn't remember.  Outrageously,
I'd never done it!!!!

   Well, eleven months later, I finally added one.  It's a wonderful, happy shot which makes me smile to see it. 
Y'all check it out:




   Thanks again!  Your note meant a great deal to me!

From Chandler Nelms (Hampton HS - '63) of MD - 09/22/05 "3.2":

Oh yeah, I forgot…..for Tom Norris (Hampton HS - '73 - of VA)…….as I recall MY favorite source
was located at the corner of Pembroke Avenue and King Street. They even took fake IDs…..with a

Hey Carol…..another topic…..I’ve been racking my brain trying to recall the name of the weekend,
nighttime WGH DJ that played all that wonderful mood music for us kids on the Peninsula to make-out
by. Roger something…….begins with an “M”…..I think. Knowing you, it’s probably posted somewhere
on the NNHS website and I’m either too stupid or too lazy to find it

Chandler Nelms

   Fake IDs - tsk, tsk, tsk.  GIGGLES.

   And Chandler, you're neither stupid nor lazy.  It's just that the site is huge and you just joined us and haven't had
time to see it all yet.

   His name was Roger Clark.  This is a long page, but it's one of my very favorites.  I think you'll enjoy it:


   Thanks, Chandler!

From Ron Miller ('59) of NC - 09/22/05:

For Helen Flax Kierstead ('58) of Ontario -- you are right -- there were grape drinks called
"Tinys". I never could decide whether I liked them or Grapettes or Pals the best. Believe me,
I drank them all -- as frequently as I could afford them! :-)
As I recall, the Tinys and Grapettes were about the same size. The Pals were only slightly larger.

   Oh, yeah!!!  It's all coming back!  Thanks so much, Ronnie!

From Judy Phillips Allen ('66) of VA - 09/22/05 -"Memories":

Gosh!  I just finished the 9/22 NewsletterI LOVE AUTUMN!!!!  I really love what you have done
with the
Old Stomping Grounds.  I was out there running or biking while Tom was delivering groceries,
I bet.

I made many trips to
WEST'S Grocery Store to pick up something for my mother and get myself some
penny candy or some other good sweet treat.  It was on Marshall Avenue and  between 35th and 36th. 
Is that the same store (or location) that
Tom Flax ('64 - of VA) mentioned?  It was right there with Stein's
Drug Store
.  I perched up on a stool at the counter there for a coke or soda often enough. 
I remember one Christmas buying a mother of pearl heart that you could look into and read the Lord's Prayer. 
I do believe that it was the most loved and cherished gift
Brenda ('67) and I ever gave my mother.  She wore
that necklace everywhere.
I also remember that Mrs. Stein was such a sweet lady and had that special grandmother quality.  I even
thought that she could pass for Mrs. Santa Claus.  Yes, I know she was Jewish, but at that age, it didn't
matter to me. 
We took all our pets to Dr. Glasofer, Stan's dad.  That is another person we loved dearly as children.  Daddy
found a flea infested, hungry, and extremely dirty dog on the railroad tracks one night and took him to Dr. G. 
They cleaned him up, gave him all his vaccinations after checking him out and Daddy brought him home where
he became a part of our family for about 12 years. He looked just like a Tibetan Terrier. Everyone loves a shaggy
dog, right?  I'll go now!  I can't see the  words any longer anyway.  It is getting a little blurry.
Enjoy Autumn!

   Thanks, Judy!  I'm glad I'm not the only one around here bawling my eyes out!

   Once again, I cannot take credit for something I don't deserve.  The entire "Our Old Stomping Grounds"
concept began with Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA, bless his sweet heart.  Back in the days when not so many people
were with us as we now have, David was continually looking for ways to improve and enlarge the site - and he did! 
Many of those early pages began when we jokingly called ourselves "The Dave and Wayne and Carol Show",
because by and large, the only posted memories came from David and me and Wayne Stokes ('65) of VA.

   There were originally only fifteen or twenty of our very favorite places, but we continually enlarge it - as we did today -
because we can, and because we want to share and preserve memories, images, and memorabilia.  And soon we'll
add West's Grocery Store, and Stein's Drug Store, and several others!  I'm glad you like it, Judy!  It's my very
favorite section of the entire site!

   Enjoy your autumn, Lady!  Thanks again for sharing your memories - see you next month!

From Dave Arnold ('65) of VA - 09/22/05 - "Update on Names":

Update through this afternoon's mail.

Dave Arnold

Thanks, Dave!  Check them out here - and then make sure that your own name is speedily added!




From Joan Lauterbach Krause ('60) of VA - 09/22/05:

Hey Carol...

Joan Lauterbach Krause (60) here.  It seems you and I must be soul mates, because only
one Virgo understands another.  My birthday is August 31, 1941, please add me to the
birthday list
.  I don't know if you know this but my husband was class of 56 / 57.  His name
was Richard Hughes Krause. (His BD was 2/5/38 and he died 12/27/99). Most everyone
called him "Dick" or "Dicky".  His sister, Janet (Janie) graduated in 1959.  By the time I found
my way to NNHS, I had already met Dick and my family moved to Stuart Gardens (15th) street. 
I met Dick through his cousin Wayne "Butchie" Rice (HHS '60).  Dick and Janie lived with
their parents, and grandparents in the 800 block of 26th Street.  His memories also included
Walter Reed Elementary
and walking to Orcutt Baptist Church.  He often talked about ____
.  I believe that was at the corner of 27th or 28th Street and maybe Marshall Avenue. 
Dick was active with the NNHS Band playing the clarinet.  His first music teacher was Catherine
at Walter Reed ES in 3rd grade.  Dick and Janie's first cousins were Stanley Krause ('52,
I think)
and Billy Krause ('55).  Stanley is still here in Newport News, but Bill died a number
of years ago.  I understand their sister lives in Poquoson.  Her name is Marjorie

Dick and I got married in 1961 when his Naval Reserve Unit was activated for the Berlin Crisis. 
In the end the unit served most of their time at the Norfolk Naval Base (following 3 months at the
base in Cuba) so we lived in Norfolk near the base.  When the unit was released we moved into the
Stuart Gardens Apartments
on Garden Drive.  Both of our children were born at Mary
Immaculate Hospital
.  Dick graduated from the Shipyard Apprentice School in 1963.  (The
military time delayed his graduation.)  We both loved the beach and the water along Stuart
Gardens and the Boulevard.  We spent many hours simply enjoying the sunshine.
I have been working on the mail to you off and on for several days.  I even sent it twice, both times
it didn't like the address.  So I just keep adding to it and changing the address.  Maybe this time it
will fly.  It's good to share memories with others who were there.  Thank you.

P.S. I believe the market's name on Marshall was Gorsuch. I have tried to get in touch with Janie
because I am pretty sure she will remember the names of all those little stores. I know there was a
drug store on the corner of Wickham and 25th that the family would walk pass to church. You know
with everyone walking everywhere they really did know everyone. Do you guys remember skating
at the skating ring on Wickham? I had such fun there. I also remember the Saturday movies and the
coat hangers. Dick was an usher at the Paramount Theatre and his mother was one of the organists
that played that wonderful instrument that went up and down. In fact Janie (my sister-in-law) was
named for Dick's mother's best friend, Janet Lyle. She was also one of the organists. Did anyone go
to the Children's Theatre held at NNHS? This was before that kid set fire to the auditorium. Ah,
memories.:) :)


   WOWZERS!!!  All the memories here - thanks!

   Is that the problem, Joan?!?  I just don't know enough Virgos?!?  Well, that explains it.  Most people I've
known throughout my life have concluded at length that I'm an alien - as in from outer-space.  There's really
not a lot of evidence to refute that position, I must say.  Sigh....

   I added your birthdays to our page:


   I'm having difficulty thinking clearly right now, but we do have a Gorsuch Drug Store:



http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/gorsuch-drug.html  - Oh, no - it was located at 325 Main Street.  "Nevermind!"

   The Hygeia Skating Rink was one of our very first Old Stomping Grounds!  I spent a lot of happy hours there!



   Thanks for sharing your memories with us, Joan.  I'm sorry you had such difficulty reaching me. 

From Me ('65) of NC - 09/23/05:

   We seem to be having a great deal of mail difficulties lately.  I had report of five of y'all - this week alone - not
receiving my Newsletter notifications.  They were all AOL users - go figure!  If I could beg a favor of y'all, I would
greatly appreciate it.  Please take a look at our Alumni List.  See if any of those people are those with whom you
maintain regular contact.  Then check to see if any of them are AOL subscribers.  If they are, please drop them a
note asking them to go into their AOL settings and add this address as one they will allow to receive mail:
.  Otherwise, AOL in its infinite wisdom will send all my notifications to their Bulk Mail, if they
deign to allow it at all - which I doubt.  Thank you so much!

From Joe Madagan ('57) of FL - 09/22/05:

Hi, Carol:

Helen Flax Kierstead ('58) of Ontario
made reference to a grape drink by the trade name "Tiny" and
I recall such a product. The only place I remember drinking them was in Salem, VA at the meat packing
plant owned by my grandfather, Keith. He had a drink cooler on the loading dock of Keith's Sausage
for the employees to use during their breaks, and although it was a coin operated machine, it did not
require a coin. The Tiny drink would get so cold that potions of it would freeze after taking the first drink,
and that made it even better.

In your response to Tom Flax ('64) of VA you recalled a cleaners on Wickham Avenue. You are likely
referring to Billy Williams Cleaners. The sign above the front door was similar to a movie marquee
and featured a knight holding a banner. It was across from Bostic's Grocery on Wickham Avenue near
27th Street. The Ritter Family (Phyllis - '61 - of VA) resided next door to the cleaners. Sammy's
was on the same side of Wickham Avenue but on the corner of 28th Street. Diagonally
across that intersection was B & J Confectionery which was owned and operated by Ned Midkiff's
parents. That establishment had a walk up window, so the wet bathers did not track up the floor when
making a purchase after a swim at the Municipal Swimming Pool.
I am glad someone else mentioned Roger's Confectionery. He served the best Hot Dogs in Newport

Edna Whitcomb Harrison ('65) of VA
sure pulled my chestnuts out of the fire by giving us the correct
spelling of the Conch as in the Conch Republic. The failed revolution is really going on to this day down
in the Keys in a very subtle manner, but it is likely the residents were glad to have the State of Florida
helping them to evacuate from Hurricane Rita this week.

TYPHOON Regards,
Joe Madagan ('57) of VA

   Thanks, Adonis!  "Billy Williams Cleaners", hmmm?  That could very well be it!  Of course, it could have been
on Chestnut, or Jefferson, or almost anywhere.....  Sigh......

   At any rate, you seem to have given me fodder for five or six more pages, here.  Keep the faith, Joe!

From Tom Flax ('64) of VA - 09/22/05 - "old stomping grounds - east end of newport news":

Well, Carol, you have opened a BIG CAN of memories now....

The little confectionary was in fact called "Sammy's", owner was Sam Cohen, and it was on Chestnut
Avenue, between 20th and 21st Streets. It was there that we could get out penny candy ... and  ice creams ...
Mr. Cohen also was a great clarinet player and even gave  me some lessons, so to prepare me for NNHS Jr.
and Ms Janice Shockley ... How about that for some memories ... NNHS Jr. Band ... Then there was
Lawson's Grocery at the corner of 24th and Oak. One of three little groceries in the area...Oh, the name
of my dad's grocery at 35th and Wickham was "Flax's Market". 

And we all remember David Rosenwasser's ('64) dad's bakery, and the Friedman's five and dime
, located next store, then it was the cleaners and of all things, a "bar"... all in that little shopping center
between 19th and 17th streets on Wickham Avenue.  And if you were a true East Ender you can remember
the previously mentioned "Stuart Movie Theater", which later became a Rich's Grocery.

I remember Ronni Green ('64) lived on a street behind the Colonial Store Grocery.  Between the
Colonial Stores and the bakery was the Pharmacy where we could  grab a tuna salad sandwich and a
fountain coke on Saturdays ... And who among us does not remember sneaking out the side door at Walter
Reed School
at 25th and Wickham to the High's Ice Cream for a nickel cone, during lunch time, and the
sneaky ones would try doing school hours ... Oh yes, I did that too ... And remember the skating rink
across from the Fire Station, at the corner of Hampton Avenue and Wickham?  Many a birthday party was
celebrated there ... I think I still have a "knee boo-boo" from falling down at the rink to this day.

Well, that should stir up many memories for now ... any other questions???
P.S. I still remember all those baseball games NNHS played on the baseball field behind the VanNoy house,
and my Little League experience at the diamond on Oak Avenue.

Stay well ... remember all memories get better the longer you remember them ... and the larger the legends grow ...
until later ... Typhoons Forever

Tom Flax (NNHS 64) better known as eastend boy ...
East End Newport News.

   Oh, WOWZERONI, Tom!  Another tour - and of Stuart Gardens Shopping Center!  I had no idea that Mr.
owned the yummy bakery there!  Oh, wowww - someday when my head clears I'll post all these
lovely memories...For now, I'll just savor them.  Thanks so much, Tommy!

From My # 5 Son, Nathaniel Harty (Hillsboro HS, Hillsboro, IL - '97) of IL - 09/22/05:

Hehe.  I am fairly certain my PhotoShopping abilities fall well short of both of those jobs.  Maybe
Dale can tackle that when he gets back home.

   Thanks, Nathaniel!  I knew that was a bit more of Dale's specialty than yours, but I thought you'd get a kick
out of it!

   When Dale does come home in January, maybe he can start a photo restoration business on the side. 
This one he did for me of the late Ray Dossett ('55) earlier always impressed me so.  He's such a perfectionist!




Fall of 1954
(Photo Restoration by Dale Harty)








From Aretie Gallins Patterson ('59) of Northern VA - 09/23/05:

Dear Carol,

Thanks to the website and newsletters I have reconnected with a classmate from long years ago,
Jackie Veneris (Nelms)
. Not only did we go to school together at John W. Daniel during the day,
but after school, we tromped down to 25th street to Greek School. In sixth grade I remember
walking to Greek School with Harry Conn ('59), who walked to Hebrew School which was held
in the next building.  An interesting piece of history, Harry and I started out together in first grade
at John W. Daniel and went through all seven grades of elementary school in the same class each
year. When we got to
NNHS, we always had at least one class together, so that at graduation, Harry
and I had been in school together for 12 years.

I have attached a picture of the third grade class at John Daniel. My father took the picture on May
Day in 1950. Does anyone else remember May Day? We danced around a circle with the flags we
are holding in the picture. Mr. George Ramsey was in charge of physical education for the school
system. At that time all the school system administrative offices were located in the basement
of John Daniel, so we often saw Mr. Ramsey and he would show us various dances, etc. from time
to time, and he taught us a dance for May Day. The girls held yellow flags and the boys held red
ones. The girls had to wear white dresses.

Not all the people in the picture went on to attend NNHS, but Gene Paschall, Carol Ann Campbell,
Harry Conn
, and I did. We graduated in 1959. Here are the names of Miss Violetta Wilson’s third
grade class, 1949-1950. I’m not sure that I spelled all of them correctly.



First row, left to right: Dorcas Ellis, Eugene Paschall, Margo Shenos,
Lucy Quisenberry, Bobby Fulton (I think), Carl Williams, Asa Chrisman,
Harry Conn, Me!, Bobby Atkins

Second row, left to right: Jimmy Drewry, Ramona Harris, Carol Ann Campbell, Jackie Veneris, I can’t remember her name; I think it was Marie something, Fred Simmons, Lawrence Henderson,
Nelson Ellis, Miss Wilson




Miss Violetta Wilson’s Third Grade Class, 1949-1950,
John W. Daniel School


 Some of us have big paper stars pinned on. They were made of yellow construction paper and
we wore them because we were 5 pointers, but I don’t quite remember what the 5 points were.
That was the year that we wrote with ink and learned our multiplication tables!

Margaret Hoban Wilner ('65 - of MD) remembers getting into the movies with coat hangers, too.
I was trying to remember how many we had to have. It seems like it was 25, but I don’t know if
that was for me or for my 2 sisters and me. Does Margaret remember how many we needed?
She’s right about the cartoons, but there was also some sort of show on the stage and a feature
presentation. One of my classmates at John Daniel, Lorraine Mitchell, got up on the stage on one
of those Saturdays and sang. I remembered that because I did not have the courage to do that, but
besides my voice would have driven everybody out of the theatre. The feature I remember best of all
was one about Abe Lincoln. Boy, did that one make an impression on me. In the movie Abe was
arguing a case and he won the case because he used the almanac to prove that the witness was
My ten year old mind thought that was so cool! I remember going to the Paramount
on Saturday mornings with the coat hangers and buying a Charms lollipop for a nickel. Always
the cherry flavor, of course, and then my mission was to make the lollipop last through the whole
Saturday morning at the Paramount.

In the September 15 newsletter, “Name these Players,” Mickey Marcella ('54 - of VA) suggests
that the boy on the back row, second from the left in the picture of the basketball team coached
by Mr. Morewitz is Harold Jones. Could that be Whit Hancock? I think it looks like Whit.
The boy beside #2 looks like one of the Stoller twins, Bobby or Peter. The Stoller twins and
Whit lived in Hampton but attended
NNHS and graduated in 1959. If #1 and #2 on the back row
are indeed one of the Stoller boys and Whit, then the picture was probably taken around 1951
or 1952.

Stuart Gardens, Seven Oaks, and Marshall Courts have been mentioned in the newsletters.
Remember the “Shipyard Apartments” that lined the upper end of Washington Avenue? The kids
there attended Stonewall Jackson Elementary School and we all met when we got to eighth grade
at NNHS where we were introduced to the student body in the “Mouse Assembly” in September.  I
think that someplace I might still have the script for the 1954-55 Mouse Assembly, which was eighth
grade year for the Class of ’59. I think I might have the Senior Assembly Script, too. I’ll check.

Hope you got the book I mailed.

Take care,

   WOWZERONI-RINI!!!  Reconnections, identifications, a super image - you hit them all for us today!

   I would love to add memories of the Greek and Hebrew Schools to the page!  But I did spend the morning working
on the Elementary School section, which was in wild disarray.


http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/daniel-school.html - I added your wonderful image, and did a bit of a page redesign.

http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/woodrow-wilson.html  - I completely redid this page while I was there.

   I remember Mr. Ramsey very well from his trips to Magruder and Walter Reed.  I even have a vague recollection
of practicing for a May Pole dance outside the sixth grade wing of Magruder, but I don't remember what became of it. 
I probably told my mama I was very, very "sick" that day with an eyelash ache or something.

   Carol Ann Campbell ('59) and her mama later lived two doors down from my mama and me on Roanoke Avenue. 
I remember her quite well.

   I'll be making that Modern Cleaners page soon, and cross-referencing it to the Paramount.

   I did indeed receive your wonderful Parke Rouse book, and hope to adding images from it quite soon.  Thank you
so much - I've been devouring it in my free time!

   I'm glad to see renewed interest in the Our Old Apartments pages.  I'd really like to hear from someone who lived
in the Shipyard Apartments.  I just looked at that page, and it really needs some memories added!:



   (David, I consider myself an expert on precious children, and was particularly partial to my own seven, but I must
say again that you were one of the most naturally adorable babies I've ever seen!)

   We would love to see that Mouse Assembly script, Aretie!  And we'd really love to see you and John - perhaps
at the reunion?!?

From An Unidentified Being - 09/23/05 - "Chandler Nelms"

Perhaps, Chandler could send you a more recent picture.

   At the risk of my starting to drool all over again, let me just add my "Amen" to that....

    Chandler, please?  It seems your public demands.

From Tom Norris (Hampton HS - '73) - of VA - 09/23/05:

I am part of a committee who is developing a book on Olde Wythe history, which will go to press
in mid 2006. My subject area is the boom of the Wythe area from 30s onward. We are seeking
pictures, stories, etc ..... to document the memories for future generations. We already have some
super never-seen photos (no ... not even on Our Old Stomping Grounds). If you have any items
of interest you wish to share please email me


Thanks Carol!


   Thanks, Tommee - sounds like fun!  Any goodies to share, Sweetie-Pies?


    I'm sending this off now, and checking for errors later.  I know that's tacky, but what can I say? 

   Y'all have a good day - and take care of each other!  TYPHOONS FOREVER!

                          Love to all, Carol


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Easier Said Than Done

(The Essex, 1963)

My friends all tell me
Go to him, run to him,
Say sweet lovely things to him,
And tell him - he's the one.

Deep in my heart I know it,
But it's so hard to show it
'Cause it's easier - easier said than done.

My buddies tell me
Fly to him, sigh to him,
Tell him I would die for him,
And tell him - he's the one.

Although he gives me a feeling
That sets my heart a-reeling,
Yet it's easier - easier said than done.

Well, I know that I love him so.
I'm afraid that he'll never know
Because I (I-I) I get so timid and shy
Each time that I look him in the eye.

They all tell me
Sing to him, swing with him,
And just do anything for him,
And tell him - he's the one.

I got a love so true
But I'm sad and blue
'Cause it's easier - easier said than done.

Well, I know that I love him so.
I'm afraid that he'll never know
Because I (I-I) I get so timid and shy
Each time that I look him in the eye.

They all tell me
Sing to him, swing with him,
And just do anything for him,
And tell him - he's the one.

I got a love so true
But I'm sad and blue
'Cause it's easier - easier said than done.
Easier-er-er-er - said than done.

"Easier Said Than Done" midi and lyrics courtesy of http://www.just-oldies.com/1963/easier_said_than_done.htm
at the suggestion of Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA - 09/03/05
Thanks, Dave! 

Image of Flying Running Girl courtesy of http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/images/300/girl_runner.jpg - 09/05/05

World of Hearts Divider Line clip art courtesy of http://www.wtv-zone.com/nevr2l82/bars12.html - 09/05/05

Animated Rolling on the Floor Laughing Boy courtesy of http://www.animationfactory.com - 04/06/05

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