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There was no Famous Birthday I wanted to mention today, and as I knew I was going to be quite busy, I had planned no Newsletter. Four items of discussion conspired to change my mind, so I thought I'd just pick an old theme from a previous year to save time. Wouldn't you know? I'd never issued a Newsletter on June 5 before! So I picked the first midi I could find that I sounded appealing to me. If you haven't recognized it by now, this was a big hit for Whitney Houston back in 1987.

From Jimmy Smith ('62) of VA - Message on Answering Machine (actually retrieved!) - 06/04/08:

.....I had a call from Barbara Ellis. Chris Ellis' ('64 - of VA) house caught on fire - the home they had lived in for 30 years - and burned to the ground and they lost everything., so I thought I'd let you know in case you hadn't heard it yet....

OH, NO!!! YOWZERONI-RINI-ROONI! Thank you so much for letting us know, Jimmy!

I had NOT heard!

From Adrian Whitcomb ('67) of VA - 06/04/08 - "Important Public Hearing on Fort Monroe at Hampton Roads Convention Center 6/7/08 10-12":

This Saturday morning at the Hampton Roads Convention Center, next to the Hampton Coliseum in Hampton, there will be an important public hearing. We would like for you to attend to support the idea of preserving open land at Fort Monroe for recreational purposes instead of development, and to preserve historic buildings by leasing them for appropriate uses rather than selling them.

All Americans have an interest in Fort Monroe's future. We need to let our views be known now while we have an opportunity to participate in the process!

Thanks,

Adrian Whitcomb

Please read the information below.

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From the Fort Monroe Army Website:

We Need Your Final Piece of the Puzzle

…In compliance with the National Historic Preservation Act, Section 106, Fort Monroe will host a public forum on Saturday, June 7, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at the Hampton Roads Convention Center, 1610 Coliseum Drive, Hampton, Va.

Purpose: Obtain final community input on matters relating to the preservation of historic properties at Fort Monroe. Redevelopment plans WILL NOT be discussed at this meeting. Redevelopment plans/ decisions on the reuse of installation property are the responsibility of Virginia’s Fort Monroe Federal Area Development Authority (FMFADA). More information about the NHPA [National Historic Preservation Act] Section 106 process can be found at: www.monroe.army.mil/monroe/sites/Section106/Section106.aspx

[from: http://www.monroe.army.mil/Monroe/uploadedFiles/Section_106_-_Public/HamptonNotice.pdf ]

Additional meetings:

Richmond

Thursday, June 12, from 6 to 8 p.m. at the Virginia Department of Historic Resources, Collection Room, 2801 Kensington Avenue, Richmond, Va.

[From: http://www.monroe.army.mil/Monroe/uploadedFiles/Section_106_-_Public/RichmondNotice.pdf ]

Washington, DC

Friday, June 13, from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at the National Trust for Historic Preservation, 1785 Massachusetts Avenue, Washington, D.C.

[From: http://www.monroe.army.mil/Monroe/uploadedFiles/Section_106_-_Public/D.C.Notice.pdf ]

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From the Daily Press:

Who will take care of Fort Monroe?

The public can look at a preliminary agreement this Saturday.

By MATTHEW STURDEVANT 247-7874 June 3, 2008 HAMPTON

— The detail of care for brick buildings, plantation-style officers' quarters, a large moated campus with parade grounds and anything else on Fort Monroe starts with an agreement between the Army and the future caretakers of the 540-acre military base.

When the Army leaves in September 2011, the land will transfer to the commonwealth of Virginia. The guidelines for preserving historic buildings and landmarks will be detailed in the agreement, a working draft of which will be available for the public's perusal during a meeting from 10 a.m. to noon Saturday at the Hampton Roads Convention Center.

"When the Army leaves an installation, it's automatically assumed there will be some...care of the facilities...the care is to mitigate any adverse impacts on the resources when the Army departs," said Mike Hodson, an Army spokesman for Fort Monroe.

The agreement is required by the National Historic Preservation Act, under which Fort Monroe has been a national landmark since 1960. Any plans to develop or alter Fort Monroe will have to comply with the agreement, which was shaped by 32 consulting organizations and the Army.

Authorities with the Fort Monroe Federal Area Development Authority who will manage the property once the Army leaves have been one of the consulting parties weighing in on how the agreement is phrased.

William Armbruster, the authority's executive director, said the main concern was that the agreement not be so restrictive and detailed that it would prevent the authority from re-using the buildings.

For example, the authority did not want layers of bureaucratic legal language to mire opportunities to make a former officers' quarters into an office for a nonprofit organization.

The agreement does have some details about how the historic post should be preserved, such as archaeological concerns, or design guidelines for restoring or rehabilitating buildings. It also splits the base into different zones with recommendations for each — for instance, the area inside the moat should be held to high standards of preservation.

The agreement is coming together just as the authority is looking over a large report by consultants who offered suggestions about how the fort could be adapted to a tourist destination. Public comment on the reuse plan is open until June 15.

Public comment on the Army's agreement with the authority is a separate process starting Saturday and going through July 7.

Fort Monroe has a military history that goes back to the 1600s. It has been a manned base since the 1800s.

Public Meeting

• What? Public comment forum on an agreement between the Army and parties that will be responsible for Fort Monroe once the Army leaves in September 2011.

• When? 10 a.m. to noon Saturday.

• Where? Hampton Roads Convention Center.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/hampton/dp-local_monroemain_0603jun03,0,4138290.story

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Please Send Comments on Fort Monroe

There are currently two ways for you to submit comments on what you think is important in considering the future of Fort Monroe.

(1) US Army

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The US Army doesn't make decisions about whether Fort Monroe will become a park or be developed, but it does set up some guidelines. Under Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act, the Army is going through the process of writing these guidelines. There have been public meetings. The public is encouraged to submit comments by e-mail or regular mail.

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All Comments are due: July 7, 2008

Submitted by

1. E-mail: monr.106public@us.army.mil

2. Mailing address:

Directorate of Public Works

Attention: Jennifer Guerrero

318 Cornog Lane

Fort Monroe, VA 23651-1110

You can answer the questionnaire, which requires some familiarization with the process as it is at this point. On the other hand, if you do not feel comfortable with going through this questionnaire, then at least make some brief comments in your own words. The most important part is that you do make some kind of response.

For more information:

http://www.monroe.army.mil/monroe/sites/Section106/Section106.aspx

The questionnaire can be found at:

From the 1930 census:

Name: Nasrella Suttle
Home in 1930: 1109 Chesapeake Blvd., Wythe, Elizabeth City, Virginia
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Syrian Arab Republic
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Entered USA: 1893
Occupation: Jeweler
Spouse's Name: Jamela
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Syrian Arab Republic
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Race: White
Entered USA: 1893

Household Members:
Name Age
Rebecca Suttle 32; b. abt. 1898, District of Columbia; Public School Teacher
Isor Suttle 30; b. abt. 1900, District of Columbia; Watch Maker

From SSDI:
Isor Suttle died in October 1993

From NN DP Archives:

ISOR SUTTLE
HAMPTON - Isor Suttle, 93, former owner of N. Suttle and Sons Jewelers of Newport News, died Saturday, Oct. 9. Mr. Suttle, a native of Washington, D.C. and a Peninsula resident for most of his life, retired in 1946 as owner of the family jewelry business after 25 years. Survived by a foster son, two nieces and three nephews. Visitation between 7 and 8:30 p.m. Monday at Claytor Rollins Funeral Home. Graveside service 11 a.m. Tuesday in Greenlawn Cemetery. Memorials to Wythe Rescue Squad, 1498 Kecoughtan Road, Hampton, 23661 or a charity of choice.

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From 1920 Census:

Name: Nasrella Suttle
Home in 1920: 619-26th St, Newport News Ward 2, Newport News (Independent City), Virginia
Age: 49 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Syria
[Syrian Arab Republic]
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Jamela
Father's Birth Place: Syria
Mother's Birth Place: Syria
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1893
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 599
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Narrella Suttle 49
Jamela Suttle 40
Jack Suttle 25 Born: DC; Occupation: Retail Merchant - bicycles
Rebecca Suttle 23
George Suttle 21 Born: DC; Occupation: Retail Merchant - bicycles
Isor Suttle 19

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Also from 1930 Census:

Name: Mike Suttle
Home in 1930: Newport News, Newport News (Independent City), Virginia
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Syrian Arab Republic
Relation to Head of House: Head
Entered USA:
Spouse's Name: Byhidin
Race: White

Household Members:
Name Age
Mike Suttle 54
Byhidin Suttle 42
George Suttle 24
Albert Suttle 22
Oscar Suttle 20
Arthur C Suttle 17
Joseph Suttle 15
Rebbccak Suttle 14
William Suttle 13
Frederick Suttle 10
Francis M Suttle 8
Michael Suttle 4 11/12
Raymond H Suttle 3 8/12

From NN DP:

ARTHUR C. SUTTLE
NEWPORT NEWS - Arthur Christopher Suttle, 81, died on Tuesday, September 6, 1994, in Riverside Regional Medical Center. He was a lifelong Newport News resident. Mr. Suttle retired from Suttle Motor Corp. in 1994 after over 50 years of service. He was a member of St. Andrews Episcopal Church. He was a former member of the De Molay, Newport News chapter. Mr. Suttle was a devoted husband, father and brother to his family. Survived by his wife, Mrs. Margaret B. "Peggy" Suttle; his daughter, Gail S. Butler, of Birmingham, Alabama; and father to the late Captain Frederick N. Suttle; two sisters, Marie Suttle and Rebecca Ham, both of Newport News; four brothers, Albert Suttle, of Petersburg, Oscar Suttle, of Irvington, Raymond Suttle and Michael Suttle Jr., both of Newport News; and many nieces and nephews. A memorial service will be held 7 p.m. Friday in Peninsula Funeral Home by the Rev. Dr. Robert Marston. The family will receive friends following the service until 8:30 p.m. Memorials to the Union Mission, 3700 Huntington Avenue, Newport News. Peninsula Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements.

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Analysis:

Miss Rebecca Suttle's family was not involved in Suttle Motor Corp. Her family may have been related to Mike Suttle, as both Mike and Nasrella were born in Syria, and both had children named Rebecca and George.

..... Miss Suttle, I believe, is related to Raymond Suttle the lawyer, and the Suttle that owns the auto dealership, who I know is the brother of Raymond......

Right you are! The evidence strongly suggests they were cousins of one degree or other. Thanks!

Okay, this is where I got lost last August, when we established that there TWO teachers we remembered as "Miss Suttle".

Carol and Typhoon Family......

I lived upstairs from the Buckroe Froggie, in Southampton Apts. in the mid sixties. He would never tell me his name other than "Froggie", I guess we will just have to be content with that !

As for Miss Suttle, she was the sister of Mr. Suttle that owned Suttle Motor Co. The Aunt of Marie Suttle that taught many of us in elementary school, Marie's late sister Rebecca was named for the

Miss Suttle that taught at NNHS. I visited Marie in April, she is now 85, and bedridden, but she is still the same sweet lady that we cried after on the last day of school...even you guys ! She is still in her home on the James and is attended by a full time R.N. and a wonderful Housekeeper. She is still as sharp as a tack and remembers almost all of the students she taught.....still an amazing lady !

Sepi aka Dimples

I'll be entering all this new information on Miss Suttle's page - as well as making a page (long overdue) for Suttle Motor Company - very soon.

Remember when we held on in the rain
The night we almost lost it
Once again we can take the night into tomorrow
Living on feelings
Touching you I feel it all again

Chorus:
Didn't we almost have it all
When love was all we had worth giving?
The ride with you was worth the fall my friend
Loving you makes life worth living
Didn't we almost have it all
The night we held on till the morning
You know you'll never love that way again
Didn't we almost have it all

The way you used to touch me felt so fine
We kept our hearts together down the line
A moment in the soul can last forever
Comfort and keep us
Help me bring the feeling back again

Chorus

Didn't we have the best of times
When love was young and new?
Couldn't we reach inside and find
The world of me and you?
We'll never lose it again
Cause once you know what love is
You never let it end

Chorus

I've attached two photos and a fake headline.